Silent removal of games

Hi guys

I've noticed some unpleasant tendency that began taking place some time ago, namely, unpublishing of games without notifying anyone and without specifying a reason. E.g., I've just found out that http://www.lgdb.org/game/star_maiden_rio (posted by me some time ago) was unpublished. I can _guess_ it happened because of download link specified on a game page was broken. However, it took only couple of minutes for me to find working link, so I see no reason why should it be unpublished. I can only guess how many more games were unpublished in similar manner.

What I want to propose is:

  • Auto PM all admins on game unpublish
  • Make every game edit to cause new revision to be created (now you can specify, whether you want to create revision or not)
  • Make revision comments mandatory
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there is no silent removal, most of the time they are unpublished because the links lead to nowhere(which can be a temp. issue eg: server down) you can also look at them under Find Content http://www.lgdb.org/admin/content

I agree that dead games (when there's no download provided by developers) should be unpublished. What I'm concerned about is:

  • In case of temporary problems (e.g. dead link, but it's possible to find working link) the person who is somehow responsible for the game (e.g. the one who posted it) doesn't get notified of problem and cannot fix it
  • It is difficult to undestand why the game was unpublished after some time have passed. For example: Neverputt (http://www.lgdb.org/game/neverputt). Downloads on game page seem to be working fine. There are no comments on why was it unpublished, so I'm confused whether this needs to be published again or left as is.
  • Looking through all the list of unpublished games seems inconvenient form me; IMO it's much easier to solve the problem immediately when it occurs

Just noticed - Neverputt was renamed to Neverball, but that actually illustrates that having single comment would have prevented any additional efforts required to understand where the problem is.

>IMO it's much easier to solve the problem immediately when it occurs

you can't do it because of temporary issues eg: server down, dns change, new domain... - so the best way is to unpublish them and look for the page from time to time

>Just noticed - Neverputt was renamed to Neverball, but that actually illustrates

I remember neverball it wasn't updated since years, the link lead to a page full of neverball with no neverputt downloads or links so I renamed this to neverball because neverball was missing and neverputt was / is nowhere available

Also, at that time I had ~200 opened tabs with games that lacked alot of tags and I edited one after another some links lead to nowhere so I googled for them and replaced their urls

and there a still many others eg: http://www.lgdb.org/games?sort_by=created&taxonomy_vocabulary_3_tid=All&...

Maybe we could leave them published but display a big warning (like on Wikipedia) that this game page is not complete and/or the game is not availably atm for linux, or that the article is a stub and needs improving...

for a moderator it means just flagging the content appropriately. even less administrative work and better user information.

Then if the page remained with the warning unchanged for a year or so, it could be then deleted/unpublished.

To illustrate what i have in mind check out fieldrunners http://www.lgdb.org/game/fieldrunners witch was distributed with a humblebundle and only is available from desura as invite only (?)

You can set the flag under the maintenence tab.

@nullzero it is possible to display a timer.

thats good we should have this warning for preorders and abandoned games(maybe in yellow), too

Looks good, just fix the typo:
deleted form -> deleted from

>>Just noticed - Neverputt was renamed to Neverball, but that actually illustrates

> I remember neverball it wasn't updated since years, the link lead to a page full of neverball with no neverputt downloads or links so I renamed this to neverball because neverball was missing and neverputt was / is nowhere available

From Neverball's download page: "Neverball, which includes Neverputt, is available for download here, and will run on most popular operating systems. Neverball is released under the GNU GPL."
Also "Also found here is Neverputt, a hot-seat multiplayer miniature golf game, built on the physics and graphics engine of Neverball."

So Neverputt is still around and kicking, it's just bundled with Neverball. You can't get one without the other. I don't think it should be removed from LGDB, it's still one of the most polished open-source Linux games out there.

So then it makes no sense if we have neverball or neverputt in the DB, right?

Well I'd say there should be both Neverball and Neverputt in the DB, even though the download link would be the same. The two games are still different and therefore different types of players could be interested in one or the other.

Each game description would mention that the game comes bundled with the other one + link to the LGDB page of the other game. WDYT?